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I have done a lot of research for this one. So bear with me. The FDA, the same government agency not bothering to keep us safe by watching what goes into our food until it’s too late, is now wasting time on hearings to take Darvon containing drugs off of the market, the main one being Darvocet. I have read the 371 page agenda on the hearing, and find it hard to believe that the data is considered credible enough for this to go through. The drug has been on the market for 50 years. It is considered a mild to moderate pain killer. Darvocet is a combination of Darvon, an Opioid drug and Tylenol. Many of you may or not know that taking too much Tylenol can shut down your liver and lead to death. The group trying to have Darvon removed as a drug choice of the American People is called Public Citizen, and this is not the first time they have tried to get Darvon removed as an option for the American people. Public Citizen points out that Darvon when used incorrectly can cause toxic consequences (so can Tylenol by itself) also the incorrectly part sticks out, as any medication can be taken incorrectly and cause complications. They state that because it is a very mild pain killer, they feel it has no more benefit then Ibuprofen, they tested this on cancer patients, and most cancer patients need more than a mild painkiller to begin with. So of course not much difference was reported. They state that because the drug is so mild, more people will take more than prescribed leading to toxic consequences or overdose. To me, my physician should discover how much pain I’m in, and reassess if the medication I’m being given is adequate if not, then it would be up to the Doctor if that medicine is not working to give me a stronger pain medicine, or find other ways of pain management. They cited that Darvocet is not a necessary drug because it was found that Lortab worked better, well of course it does, it is a moderate to severe pain medicine, a step above Darvocet. They cited that people use Darvocet to commit suicide, really are they serious? If someone wants to commit suicide, they are going to do it with whatever drug is available. So, say we outlaw Darvocet; a person goes into the doctor with pain, now the doctor has to prescribe Lortab or something stronger, remember Darvocet is no longer available, and then the person overdoses on Lortab instead. Did we fix the problem? I think not. They also cite that people have drug interactions with Darvocet, do they really believe drug interactions won’t occur with another drug just as easy. Besides shouldn’t our doctor or pharmacist know what drugs were on and look to prevent drug interactions. They also point out that people may drink alcohol while taking Darvocet and have a toxicity issue, should a person drink with any medication? Isn’t that what the warnings on the bottle are for? They also suggested that giving Darvocet to the elderly may cause dizziness, which could lead to falling and hip fractures. Wow, seriously, maybe it should be outlawed for the elderly to own a cat; they may trip and sustain a hip fracture. Also cited as one of the main reasons Darvocet should be banned was that there is a risk for dependency. We are talking about a pain medication right? How many narcotic pain medications is there that aren’t capable of causing addiction? And are they really thinking that putting someone on a stronger narcotic that dependency won’t occur? The following is the conclusions are from the Deborah Trunzo, Office of Applied Studies, Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, December, 2008 Conclusions The number of treatment admissions for abuse of opioid analgesics has risen sharply since 1997, following the introduction of Oxycontin. ?In States identifying specific pain relievers, the increase in these admissions can be attributed almost entirely to oxycodone. The data suggest that propoxyphene (aka Darvocet) accounts for a very small fraction of pain reliever admissions. ?The youngest opioid analgesic admissions are the most likely to inhale on inject the drug. ?First use of opioid analgesics by persons admitted to treatment for abuse of these drugs is more likely to occur before the age of 25 than after the age of 25. References Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, Office of Applied Studies, Treatment Episode Data Set (teds): 1996-2006. National Admissions to Substance Abuse Treatment Services, DASIS Series: S-43, DHHS Publication No. (SMA) 08-4347, Rockville, MD, 2008. This is a portion of the article stating the FDA advisory panel recommended 14-12 (a small margin) to withdraw Darvon containing medications from the market. FDA panel recommends ban on the painkiller Darvon Fri Jan 30, 6:09 pm ET WASHINGTON – Government medical advisers Friday recommended a ban on Darvon, a prescription medicine that's been used to treat pain for more than 50 years but left a trail of problems such as addiction and suicide. A Food and Drug Administration advisory panel voted 14-12 to recommend withdrawing Darvon after a daylong hearing examining its risks and benefits. The FDA is not required to follow the recommendations of its advisers, but often does so. Darvon was first approved in 1957, when there were few alternatives for treating pain except aspirin and powerful narcotics. Now mainly marketed as Darvocet, which includes a dose of acetaminophen, the drug remains one of the top 25 most commonly prescribed medications. More than 20 million prescriptions were written in 2007. The consumer group Public Citizen had petitioned the FDA to withdraw Darvon because the drug offers relatively weak pain relief and poses an overdose risk, with the potential to be used in suicides. "With a drug that has almost no evidence of benefit, any risk is unacceptable," said Dr. Sidney Wolfe, a drug safety expert with Public Citizen who first sought a ban in the 1970s. "Hopefully the FDA will follow the vote of its advisers." I’m sure you’re wondering and rightfully so, why do I care. I’m sure there will be many people addicted to Darvocet upset that this drug is being removed. I do take Darvocet. I am allergic to Codiene and Morphine and their derivatives, Darvocet is the only medication I can take, unless I move up to Fentanyl an Opioid drug that used to be used to sedate people for surgery. I have Lupus and a ruptured disk L 4-5 that cause me pain, I take Darvocet probably a couple of times a month. I counted what I have I filled my bottle of Darvocet 120 pills on 8-29-08 my instructions say I can take up to 4 pills daily, so this is a month supply, I currently have 80 pills left, so I took on average 8 pills a month since August. This bottle happened to be filled after I broke my arm, so I took a little more at that time than I usually do. It works for me, I’m not a cancer patient. In my opinion it is definitely stronger than Ibuprofen, I do take ibuprofen for mild pain or inflammation. I don’t want to have to take a much stronger pain medication if I don’t need it. I completely understand the FDA taking medications off the market when they are found to cause public safety issues, like Vioxx, which I did take for several years, it caused many heart problems and we should be protected from medications causing such serious directly related health problems, but to take a drug that when used correctly off of the market, because of something someone might do with it, is ridiculous and a waste of resources for an agency that obviously can’t keep up with basic safety measures. In case you would like to do your own research on this, here are the links to the entire article on FDA ban on Darvon <font color="#800080">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090130/ap_on_he_me/darvon</font> and if you would like to read both sides of the argument from the FDA docket <font color="#800080">http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/09/briefing/2009-4411b1-01-FDA.pdf</font> . What pain meds are next, do we really want our physicians to have less choices in managing our health?
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Well it sounds like to me anyways the drug company that is making Lortab must be getting funding from somewhere( CONGRESS ) to have this Darvoset taken off the market. I can only take this med after my surgeries.Morphine makes me have severe horrible reactions as well as other meds.
If they say people who are taking this are more likly to commit suicide what about other medications are they gonna start with darvoset and work there way down the line !!!
Lisa
I dont like taking pain pills anyways but after my latest surgery i had no choice. the pain was INTENSE.
I'm not so sure there are too many drugs on the market, differnet drugs will work differently for different people, I think it is important that doctors have a wide range of choices to give a patient the lowest dose of a drug posible to be effective. For someone like me who has allergies to 13 different medications and counting, it is good to have more then one option for a problem. The problem is not too many drugs on the market, the problem is we live in a society that believes there's a pill for everything, and if one Doctor won't give you the pill you want, there are 10 more in the wings or on the internet who will.
I have taken darvocet for 8 yrs for a hip injury and it works just fine with me and does not leave me drowsy i am allergic to lortab and toradol and cant take ibuprofen because of stomach upset.
Michelle, it is strange, but just yesterday I was having a conversation with a coworker who happens to have a degree in pharmacology { being a military spouse and posted to a small town where that degree and the others she holds unfortuneatly she is unable to use},about different drugs on the market. We were discussing different pain meds I had been given and I had said I would take Advil over Tylenol because I felt it worked better even though the latter was not as hard on your liver. She told me that in fact the most toxic thing you can put in your system is Tylenol. It effects your liver, stomach and intestines. I never knew that. As for taking one drug off the market and leaving a stronger one then siting suicide, the stronger one takes less to do the job. Deb
Food for thought... (1) approximately 23 million prescriptions of Propoxyphene pain medications are written every year (very large market) (2) Xanodyne Pharmaceuticals is the owner of Darvocet / Darvon (propoxyphene) and is working in "cooperation" with the FDA and the study panel to remove propoxyphene (3) Xanodyne has a new pain medication for moderate to moderately severe pain in their pipeline called Zipsor awaiting FDA approval! Sounds like $$$$$$
Furthermore:
All of the doctors I have spoken with have never had an issue with the efficacy of propoxyphene & acetaminophen.
If you remove propoxyphene, you eliminate a C4 and practically force doctors to jump from a Motrin (NSAID) to Hydrocodone (C3) for increased pain. Food for thought ... http://www.cato.org/research/articles/michaels-040229.html
For those that are allergic to hyrocodone and may have stomach or GI irritation with NSAIDs, what are their options?
My last thought, as someone mentioned previously... irresponsible use of any opiod or even NSAID for that matter can be toxic and or fatal.
Later
Hi SleepTech,
I wouldn't be surprised to see that this is just the first of the many drugs to be taken off the market due to people selling them. I don't know about you but I can't be offered enough money to sell my drugs, and I need the money! The only way we are going to prevent others from being taken off is write letters, sign petitions, and bombard the person introducing the bill with letters.
You mentioned Lortab. I know drugs affect people differently. My doctor wouldn't prescribe Darvocet due to potential to be addictive, but it wasn't his drug of first choice either, said it wouldn't help me. I have been taking Lortab (Hydrocodone/Vicodan) for five years now without side effects other than being sleepy after taking afternoon tab. I fear the day I cannot get Vicodan. I tolerate pain now when the Vicodan isn't working and won't tell my doctor because I don't want to advance to anything stronger.
I was glad to see FDA approved Lyrica although I am going to stick with the Cymbalta and Neurontin for now. My brother used to work in upper management for Pfizer so he sends me info frequently.
I don't have time to do the research you are doing so keep me posted. I have been working trying to get The Doctors to listen to us. They have finally but not to our advantage or help. I am trying to organize a chronic pain support group down but have had to put everything on hold for the past two weeks (my crisis period).
Peggye
and it seems to be that way with so many other drugs, tylenol is very toxic in large doses and your only suppose to take so much in a life time plus not to mention if you have/had any type of liver problem it's straight poison to your liver. I know i had hep c. from a blood transfusion back in 1970 before they screened for that, so i have to be extremely careful not to consume any tylenol if possible but that's pretty hard to do seems like everything has tylenol in it. Anyway great blog hope everyone reads it and learns from all your hard work you put into the research i was VERY IMPRESSED need more people like you to put all that info out there, alot of people don't do there home work on meds/side affects etc. Would like to add you as my friend do you mind? Margie
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